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 Subject :Re:The watch! The watch!.. 2018-06-21 02:02:42 
williamvriley
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Topic : The watch! The watch!

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 Subject :Re:Dead Xprotolab plain ???.. 2018-06-18 05:47:31 
elecomte
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Forum : XMEGA Xprotolab
Topic : Dead Xprotolab plain ??? (FIXED)

(This is an edited answer as my first one was providing wrong details)

So I finally find the details I needed, and was able to fix the Xprotolab Plain :-)

Everything provided in documentation about firmware update is OK, except that the details on "what is the PIN 1 / 6 of J8 connector" are missing.

I did a (fixed) pin diagram : I'm sharing it here, this time it seems to be OK

So the J8 connector is the extension port, not soldered and with only surface mount soldering points, next to the MCU. You have to solder a connector here (for example, a low-profil 1*6 connector is perfect) and "sacrifice" the PDI connector (actually, you will never use it if you don't have a PDI compliant programmer). Then you will be able to link PIN 1 to 6 in it and once you have connected USB, you have to remove the link.

After that, follow the instructions. As the Atmel website is gone since december 2017, you have to search into archive.org for the FLIP tool . Don't forget to use the USB driver provided with FLIP when your computer identify the device, not the WinUSB driver from Zadig tool.

Once the firmware is updated, this nice little device is back to normal :-)

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 Subject :Dead Xprotolab plain ??? (FIXED).. 2018-06-17 23:16:14 
elecomte
Joined: 2018-06-18 03:52:07
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Topic : Dead Xprotolab plain ??? (FIXED)

Hi,

My brand new Xprotolab plain (bought in your french distributor store) worked for 5 minutes (using Windows 10, xscope + driver install was OK) and was very promising for a total newbe on MCU programming like me.

But when I started to use the logic analyzer (on a NodeMCU output => ESP8266 with 3.3v level for all GPIOs) Xscope freezed. I restarted everything but since, the xprotolab doesn't light up anymore : I have only 2/3 red light flashes and no more green light.

As I though I erased the firmware or something, I followed various instructions about how to restore it : BTW it's not well explained : do I have to link pin 1 to pin 6 or do I have to ground pin 6 to GND, as I have seen on another forum message ???.

  • I tried with FLIP (hard to find since the Atmel site doesn't exist anymore ... by the way you can find Flip installer for a version working with Windows 10 here : thank you archive.org). USB connection doesn't work, and I got a missing dll error. It's impossible to install the USB driver provided with FLIP. But Zadig is still able to "reinstall" the driver with success (and the device is seen in windows as "xscope"). And windows seems to "see" the xprotolab in some way.
  • I tried also on linux Ubuntu, but AVRDUDE says that there is no available driver for the device.
  • I have tried on various PC without more success : still 2 / 3 red light flashes, no green light.

So I really don't know how to fix this. Maybe it's the bootloader which is erased, but I don't have a PIC programmer and I don't expect to pay 20€ or something to buy stuff for fixing a 20€ device ... Or maybe I can try with a USB / TTL adaptor (I have one based on CP2104) ?

Is my protolab fully dead ? Did I missed something somewhere on how to fix this ?

Thank you a lot for any help provided

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 Subject :Updating firmware on xprotolab.. 2018-05-23 19:27:59 
omegacore
Joined: 2012-10-01 19:57:33
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Forum : XMEGA Xprotolab
Topic : Updating firmware on xprotolab

Hi,

When I use the USB scope windows application it tells me to update my firmware. Also the software doesn't seem to control the scope very well.

I tried to follow the firmware update guide, but Windows 10 will not let me install the USB drivers for the bootloader. When I try to update the driver (per the Amtel guide instructions AN 8429) it says I already have newer drivers and the device remains uninitialized.

I could spin up a VM and try from linux, but the avrdude instructions are very sparse. Do I really only need to run two commands?

I also could not find where it says what hardware version of the scope I have. When it boots it says it's running v2.0.0.

Thanks!

 

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 Subject :Re:The watch! The watch!.. 2018-05-22 20:38:04 
rosesandra
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Topic : The watch! The watch!

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 Subject :Re:Xprotolab Plain no usb.. 2018-04-11 09:50:09 
pease@coati.com
Joined: 2015-03-29 23:28:48
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Forum : XMEGA Xprotolab
Topic : Xprotolab Plain no usb

Hi, Gabriel,

Thanks for the reply.  Much to my amazement, I tried a different USB cable and it worked!  (I thought I had tried more than one when moving from my laptop to my Android tablet, without any success, but now both work.)  So I guess this was user error!

-David

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 Subject :Re:Xprotolab Plain no usb.. 2018-03-28 19:10:46 
ganzziani
Joined: 2012-04-02 15:42:39
Posts: 459
Location: Sarasota, FL
 
Forum : XMEGA Xprotolab
Topic : Xprotolab Plain no usb

Hi, can you try with a different USB cable? If it doesn't work, perhaps you will need a replacement. Send me an email.
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 Subject :Xprotolab Plain no usb.. 2018-03-04 12:43:00 
pease@coati.com
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Forum : XMEGA Xprotolab
Topic : Xprotolab Plain no usb

Hi,

I have an Xprotolab Plain that I cannot get to show up through USB.  (I have tried both Ubuntu and Android, and both claim there is no USB device connected.)

The list of attached devices from lsusb does not change when I plug in the device; it simply doesn't show up.  I believe that there is a red LED that is supposed to flash with USB activity, but I have never seen it.  (The green LED stays lit continuously.)  I've tried shorting pins 1 and 6 of J8 to activate the bootloader before powering, but still no USB device.

I've had the board for quite a while, and have tried several times to figure out what's wrong, but now need to use it and need help getting it connected.

Thanks!  -David

P.S. The packaging shows HW: 1.0, if that makes a difference.  Obviously, I can't see the firmware version.

 

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 Subject :Re:Pinout for old xprotolab.. 2018-02-20 14:10:10 
ganzziani
Joined: 2012-04-02 15:42:39
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Location: Sarasota, FL
 
Forum : XMEGA Xprotolab
Topic : Pinout for old xprotolab

Yes, you can apply power thru +5V and GND. You can take a look at schematics to be sure.
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 Subject :Pinout for old xprotolab.. 2018-02-17 06:48:11 
Efluon
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Forum : XMEGA Xprotolab
Topic : Pinout for old xprotolab

i want to use my old xprotolab without usb. Now i dont know how to connect the power. The manual describes a 6x1 pin connector , i have a 3x2 connector.

Edit: can i just use the +5v of the „back“ pins (besides the logic ins)? (The -5 is an output??)

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 Subject :Xprotolab plain - how to use it in a simple way.. 2018-01-14 05:55:41 
friemelfritze
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Topic : Xprotolab plain - how to use it in a simple way

Hello,

I recently bought a "plain version". Problem: it is not running anyway, neither under windows (XP64) nor Ubuntu 16 nor Android.

Later I only want to use it with a tablet and the Oscilloscope software from NFX (Nick Winder), for now also this is not working. (but using a OTG cable). What about the two cables from Micro -->A-A--> Micro? Both OTG necessary?

But the LED is lighting and both the voltages can be measured at the PCB-pins.

How to install the ZADIG-driver? There is no explanation, what it does. It propably does'nt work because the device is not recognized by MS Windows resp. I believe this. Can this be true?

And at last: should Xscope show "Connected", when it is connected only without any other cables on it or not? What means the white cable on the picture at the "plain" page between pin 1 and 5? I dont understand, why there is a signal shown without any Channel input. Confusing.

And really at last: what mean the 6 empty holes near the usb interface? Can I use them?

thanks for help!

Fritze

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 Subject :... 2018-01-12 08:09:10 
Schizopilz
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 Subject :Re:Xscope and screen resolution + control hiding.. 2017-12-17 06:26:24 
jdinsmore
Joined: 2017-11-20 12:12:16
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Location: Melbourne, Florida
 
Forum : XScopes PC Interface
Topic : Xscope and screen resolution + control hiding

Yes, this is giving me grief also on the Raspberry Pi; I hate to make everything else microscopic just to get access to the controls; even to turn it on and off.

 

One thing I did was to edit the /boot/config.txt in order to change the vertical part of my screen resolution to 800 which worked for my 1366x768 display.

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 Subject :Re:Xprotolab Plain Manual?.. 2017-11-24 05:49:14 
ganzziani
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Forum : XMEGA Xprotolab
Topic : Xprotolab Plain Manual?

The plain runs (almost) the same firmware. The features are all the same. You only need to control everything from the GUI.
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 Subject :Xprotolab Plain Manual?.. 2017-11-22 06:48:17 
mmatrix
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Forum : XMEGA Xprotolab
Topic : Xprotolab Plain Manual?

I just got my xprotolab plain from Amazon and have it up and working, but I can't seem to find any documentation for it. The downloadable manual covers the xprotolabs that have a screen and input buttons, but not the headless "plain" version, which seems quite different.  Where should I look for a manual for the "plain" version?

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 Subject :honesty?.. 2017-11-21 11:08:34 
uwezi
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Topic : honesty?

Hi Gabriel,

 

could you at least acknowledge your defeat for us, your backers on Kickstarter?

 

Yours,

 

Uwe.

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 Subject :Re:XScope shows 20V on empty channels.. 2017-11-09 06:46:11 
agmihos
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Forum : XMEGA Xprotolab
Topic : XScope shows 20V on empty channels

Thanks for the credits!

I guess speaking 25 years of expirience on marine electronics repair! I was forced to develop some unorthodox methods to resolve hard issues. Some times I'm thinking to write a relative book!


The information you are looking for, is somewere in the user manual.

If I remember well you press K4 before power supply. Then appear few options, one of them must be it.

I guess you are going to calibrate it after charge pump replace.

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 Subject :Re:XScope shows 20V on empty channels.. 2017-11-07 22:48:46 
skostrub
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Topic : XScope shows 20V on empty channels

Thanks for a good idea with external -5V.

Device worked well, so I decided to replace the charge pump it did the job.

 

Unplugged chennels now show 0.0035V. Device works!

Is there a way to calibrate it 0? Didnt found that part in manual.

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 Subject :Re:Xprotolab as test Jig.. 2017-11-04 08:38:49 
Gem
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Forum : Oscilloscope Watch
Topic : Xprotolab as test Jig

So,

I was able to solve my above problem. I used the commands mentioned in the manual.
For e.g. to set square wave send command 0x62 (command 'b') 0x25 (AWG waveform type 37 dec) 0x02 (square wave).

Similarly apply this logic for other parameters.
Baud should be 115200.

Thanks

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 Subject :Xprotolab as test Jig.. 2017-11-03 07:06:03 
Gem
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Topic : Xprotolab as test Jig

Hi

I want to use Xprotolab plain as test Jig to test my hardware. I want to use Xprotolab to generate following waveform:

Square Wave

time: t0 to t1 -> 0 to 60Hz

time: t1 to t2->hold 60hz

time: t2 to t3 -> 60 to 0hz.

This process is automated and should go on in loop.

To achieve this I was thinking of Using Arduino Uno. Uno shall send commands over serial port to the xprotoblab.

Can anyone please provide the serial protocol datasheet or the format of the commands and the serial data frame?

OR Is there any other way to achieve above task?

Thanks

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